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Maptalk-Digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 99 : Number 542

Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
    From: Richard Lake <
    From: "Cliff Schaffer" <>
Re: Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
    From: Larry Seguin <>
Re: MAP:Safariseeds.com
    From: Larry Seguin <>
Re: Re: Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
    From: Larry Seguin <>
Re: MAP:Safariseeds.com
    From: Mark Greer <>


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Subj: Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
From: Richard Lake <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 09:51:10 -0500

One of MAP's newshawks writes:

You may want to point the readers toward this poll in the Detroit
News. We're losing.....

Sledhead

http://data.detnews.com:8081/poll/survey.hbs

Legalize marijuana?

Under a proposed amendment to the state constitution, anyone 21 or
older could grow and smoke up to 3 ounces of marijuana at home. Are
you in favor of such an amendment?

Yes     38%

No      61%

You may also write comments about the poll, which is the third one down on
the above webpage of the Detroit News.

This poll is the result of an initiative effort in Michigan which is
described in the news items at the following URLs:

Activists Promote Legalized Marijuana

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99/n1381/a10.html

Saginaw Lawyer Pushes Freedom To Smoke Pot

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99/n1386/a07.html 
 

Richard Lake 
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Subj:Safariseeds.com
From: "Cliff Schaffer" <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:49:03 -0800

  Is anyone else getting mail-bombed by an outfit calledSafariseeds.com?  I
have received several hundred of the same stupid ad from them over the last
several days -- fifteen or twenty messages every time I check my mail -- all
of them fairly large with a gif in each.

  If you are having this problem, I have already been in touch with their
ISP and have asked the ISP to shut down their site and turn off their
Internet services.  Their site is now down but they continue to send the
mail.

  Their contact information is:

Registrant:
Safari Seeds & Organics, Inc. (SAFARISEEDS2-DOM)
   774 Mays Blvd. # 10
   Incline Village, NV 89451
   US

   Domain Name:SAFARISEEDS.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Forster, E  (EF1938)  
      408-490-2872
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      scruz-net network operations center  (SCRZ-NOC)  
      (831) 466-1000
Fax- (831) 466-1010

    If anyone knows this E. Forster idiot and can get ahold of him and tell
him to stop this crap, please do.  At this point I wouldn't buy anything
from this idiot and I will do my best to make sure no one else buys anything
from them.

    Does anyone know offhand where to make a legal complaint against this
idiot?  Someone that stupid should be dealing with the Feds.

Clifford A. Schaffer
P.O. Box 1430
Canyon Country, CA 91386-1430
661-251-4140

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Subj: Re: Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
From: Larry Seguin <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:55:44 -0500

Voted at:
http://data.detnews.com:8081/poll/survey.hbs
Its now 55%-yes, 44% no.
Here is my comment I left:

We can put $110 billion a year to better use!
9,082 deaths from over dose from illegal drugs 1998 (hard drugs)?
245,000 homeless in US!
165,000 die each year from prescription drugs!
418,000  "   "     "    "   tobacco!
727,000  "    "    "    "   heart Disease!
160,000  "    "    "    "   stroke!
158,000  "    "    "     "  cancer!
 63,000  "    "    "     "  diabetes!
 40,000  "    "     "    "  car accidents!
290,000  People living with AIDS !
100,000  die each year  from  alcohol!
 42,000   "   "    "      "   breast cancer!
 31,000    "  "    "      "   suicide!
 20,000   "   "    "      "   homicide!
      0   "   "    "      "   marijuana!!
Need I say any more!!Thank you
Larry Seguin
288 Cold Spring Rd.
Lisbon, New York 13658-3208
315-393-7375

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Subj: Re: MAP:Safariseeds.com
From: Larry Seguin <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:05:25 -0500

Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th US Congress. I believe this is a
law againest unwanted spam. 
Some one can correct me if I'm wrong.
Larry S ;)

At 04:49 PM 12/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>  Is anyone else getting mail-bombed by an outfit calledSafariseeds.com?  I
>have received several hundred of the same stupid ad from them over the last
>several days -- fifteen or twenty messages every time I check my mail -- all
>of them fairly large with a gif in each.
>
>  If you are having this problem, I have already been in touch with their
>ISP and have asked the ISP to shut down their site and turn off their
>Internet services.  Their site is now down but they continue to send the
>mail.
>
>  Their contact information is:
>
>Registrant:
>Safari Seeds & Organics, Inc. (SAFARISEEDS2-DOM)
>   774 Mays Blvd. # 10
>   Incline Village, NV 89451
>   US
>
>   Domain Name:SAFARISEEDS.COM
>
>   Administrative Contact:
>      Forster, E  (EF1938)  
>      408-490-2872
>   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>      scruz-net network operations center  (SCRZ-NOC)  
>      (831) 466-1000
>Fax- (831) 466-1010
>
>    If anyone knows this E. Forster idiot and can get ahold of him and tell
>him to stop this crap, please do.  At this point I wouldn't buy anything
>from this idiot and I will do my best to make sure no one else buys anything
>from them.
>
>    Does anyone know offhand where to make a legal complaint against this
>idiot?  Someone that stupid should be dealing with the Feds.
>
>Clifford A. Schaffer
>P.O. Box 1430
>Canyon Country, CA 91386-1430
>661-251-4140
>
>
>

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Subj: Re: Re: Legalize marijuana?   POLL!!!!
From: Larry Seguin <>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 05:18:27 -0500

Time magizine-Dec 13 1999: most came from there.Others(???) came from other
articles I have read.See below-I labeled them.
Larry S ;)
At 11:19 PM 12/26/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Larry, do you have a reference source to cite for these figures?  They would
>be great stats to quote in LTE's, but a source needs to be shown.
>
>Rick Root
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Seguin <>
>To:  <>
>Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 6:54 PM
>Subject: MAP: Re:Legalize marijuana? POLL!!!!
>
>
>>Voted at:
>>http://data.detnews.com:8081/poll/survey.hbs
>>Its now 55%-yes, 44% no.
>>Here is my comment I left:
>>
>>We can put $110 billion a year to better use!
>>9,082 deaths from over dose from illegal drugs 1998 (hard drugs)?
>>245,000 homeless in US!                          WDT-26 dec 1999 News paper
>>165,000 die each year from prescription drugs!      ???   
>>418,000  "   "     "    "   tobacco!             Time mag 13 dec 99
>>727,000  "    "    "    "   heart Disease!           "
>>160,000  "    "    "    "   stroke!                   "
>>158,000  "    "    "     "  cancer!                  "
>> 63,000  "    "    "     "  diabetes!                 "
>> 40,000  "    "     "    "  car accidents!           "
>>290,000  People living with AIDS !                   "
>>100,000  die each year  from  alcohol!             ???
>> 42,000   "   "    "      "   breast cancer!        time dec 13
>> 31,000    "  "    "      "   suicide!                 "
>> 20,000   "   "    "      "   homicide!                "
>>      0   "   "    "      "   marijuana!!         ???
>>Need I say any more!!Thank you
>>Larry Seguin
>>288 Cold Spring Rd.
>>Lisbon, New York 13658-3208
>>315-393-7375
>
>
>

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Subj: Re: MAP:Safariseeds.com
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:16:36 -0800

I called Tycho (the ISP) and talked to Ross. The offender was just another 
web newbie who didn't know better. He knows now. Shouldn't happen again 
(from this guy anyway).

At 04:49 PM 12/26/1999 -0800, Cliff Schaffer wrote:

>   Is anyone else getting mail-bombed by an outfit calledSafariseeds.com?  I
>have received several hundred of the same stupid ad from them over the last
>several days -- fifteen or twenty messages every time I check my mail -- all
>of them fairly large with a gif in each.
>
>   If you are having this problem, I have already been in touch with their
>ISP and have asked the ISP to shut down their site and turn off their
>Internet services.  Their site is now down but they continue to send the
>mail.
>
>   Their contact information is:
>
>Registrant:
>Safari Seeds & Organics, Inc. (SAFARISEEDS2-DOM)
>    774 Mays Blvd. # 10
>    Incline Village, NV 89451
>    US
>
>    Domain Name:SAFARISEEDS.COM
>
>    Administrative Contact:
>       Forster, E  (EF1938)  
>       408-490-2872
>    Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>       scruz-net network operations center  (SCRZ-NOC)  
>       (831) 466-1000
>Fax- (831) 466-1010
>
>     If anyone knows this E. Forster idiot and can get ahold of him and tell
>him to stop this crap, please do.  At this point I wouldn't buy anything
>from this idiot and I will do my best to make sure no one else buys anything
>from them.
>
>     Does anyone know offhand where to make a legal complaint against this
>idiot?  Someone that stupid should be dealing with the Feds.
>
>Clifford A. Schaffer
>P.O. Box 1430
>Canyon Country, CA 91386-1430
>661-251-4140

Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense

http://www.drugsense.org
http://www.mapinc.org

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